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Radiomod

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ich hab vor einigen Wochen mal aus Zufall einen alten Kriegsfilm angesehen, und darin gings unter anderem um einen Flugzeugträger der Amis.......zu meinem Erstaunen nutzen die da zum Schleppen der Flugzeuge an Deck Jeeps. Allerdings in einer sehr ungewöhnlichen Bauform, mit hinten mittig gelegenen Reifen wie eine Isetta oder ein Stapler. Hat davon jemand zufällig Fotos oder Infos über die Bauart ???

mfg MIkel
CanadaChris

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ohne mehr Infos bin ich etwas ???
malamute

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Die US-Army und auch Navy hatte dafür spezielle CJ10 als Flugzeugschlepper im Einsatz. Aber nachweislich waren auch Willys auf Flugzeugträgern im Einsatz.
Beim allerersten Euro Jeep Camp in der Ardeche wurde ein solcher Jeep in der offiziellen Ausstellung gezeigt, samt Historie. Der war übrigens hellgrau lackiert und hatte den ganz frühen geschweißten Grill.

malamute
Claude

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gefunden hab i bis jetzt das und suche weiter ::)

MM NTX I könnt mir vorstellen das das Teil uff Willys Basis erstell wurde?

This picture shows a 1943 version. It was used by the US Navy for towing aircraft
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aus em www
The next version of the Jeep takes us to Camp Ripley, Minnesota, home of the 109th Ordnance Company, Minnesota National Guard. Captain Martin Schiska commanded the 109th, as well as being an employee of the MinneapolisMoline Power Implement Company, builder of farm tractors. In the mid1930s, the Army was still using ancient, hulking 1917 Holt 5ton tractors to pull its larger field pieces. Schiska, a World War I veteran, realized the need for new equipment and impressed this upon MinneapolisMoline. As early as 1938 (some sources say 1937) MM was building and testing prototype prime movers, and in August of 1940, during testing at Camp Ripley, Sergeant James T. O'Brien is quoted by several sources to have applied the name "Jeep" to the MM prime mover. In a letter to MinneapolisMoline dated March 31, 1943, O'Brien explained how the name came about. "One evening," he wrote, "in a gathering of enlisted men, it was suggested that a short descriptive name be found for these vehicles, such names as 'alligator' and 'swamp rabbit.' I brought forth the name 'Jeep' as a result of reading Popeye in which Eugene the Jeep appears as a character, and the fact that these vehicles would go where you would least expect them to go. The name was unanimously accepted and subsequently painted on the vehicles, which have since become familiarly known." The MM Model UTX was a real piece of hardware. Basically a converted farm tractor, the MM Jeep featured fourwheel drive and a 425cid, 70hp (at 1,275 rpm) sixcylinder gasoline engine. It could pull a 5ton 155mm howitzer at 28 mph, with occasional spurts up to 40 mph, and had a fording depth of over three feet. The MM Jeep prototypes came in open and closedcab models. Two of the four tested at Camp Ripley mounted .30cal machine guns. All models featured a roller device in place of a front bumper, enabling it to cross large obstacles. Some also mounted winches. During testing at the Fourth Army maneuvers in August 1940, the MM Jeep was photographed climbing six feet up an oak tree. (The tree gave up at that point, and the tractor crushed it into matchsticks. So much for Treading Lightly!) The tractor was also said to have "walked" through a forest of 5inch trees. These photos appeared in the Army Times (Sept. 14, 1940) in an article entitled "Army Likes Jeep." The MM Jeep performed well in a succession of tests, but the Army's requirements seemed to change by the day. Before the UTX ever went into production, the evolution towards larger and larger field pieces and the requirement for a relatively high road speed ultimately overwhelmed the UTX's capacities. A total of six were built, and one survivesin a private collection.

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The MM UTX "Jeep"

Even though the UTX never saw service, once the proper niche was found, more than a thousand upgraded units were eventually produced in several versions that included a 6x6. MM designs saw service with all branches of the military during World War II and after. Ironically, the Molines found their ultimate niche as aircraft tractors, but even as late as 1943 newspaper headlines still referred to them as Jeeps. "Jeep Helps Save Lives of War Heroes" was the headline of one '43 news story, describing a photo of a MinneapolisMoline NTX tractor and a tale of strafed, burning aircraft being towed off a runway so a group of outof fuel fighters could land.
Claude

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Der CJ-10 aircraft pulling vehicle

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malamute

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... genau das Teil meinte ich, Claude - Danke fürs Bild, war zu faul zum suchen!

;D Billy
Claude

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... genau das Teil meinte ich, Claude - Danke fürs Bild, war zu faul zum suchen!

;D Billy

Gern geschehen ::) s' isch Sonntag und i hab viel Zeit Bild Bild
Radiomod

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Hm auch ein nettes Modell, is aber ned das was ich gesehen habe....... die hatten hinten die beiden Räder fast als Zwillingsbereifung.......also ganz dicht aneinander , wahrscheinlich mit Hinterradlenkung sah man leider zu kurz, um den Videorecorder einzuschalten
Claude

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AHA! ;D du guggsch DMAX! Bild Bild Bild Bild
Radiomod

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genau !! :-)
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